Massacre … next step is mass suicides judging from the hysteria across the boards. I bet that’s just testing the waters with tiny chunks. Many more massacres to come …
Fair point, Lyndon. Maybe folks did get a little hot under the collar yesterday but, certainly from my perspective, it wasn’t just about PR. It’s more about the way Google operate.
HA! You nofollowed the comments on this post. That’s either the most subtle and funny thing I’ve seen on the internet all week or a mistake. Either way it made me laugh.
@ I have changed my nofollow plugin to nofollow comments less than 3 days old. Older comments still carry the juice.
I am getting swamped by spammy comments and hope this will deter, for genuine commenters it doesn’t really change as after 3 days the nofollow comes off. Although I am considering getting rid of the dofollow as there is no real benefit and means I have to waste time deleting spam.
Nofollow doesn’t stop automated scripts from spamming any detected blog. Since your comments are moderated and not shown (hopefully), the 3 day nofollow won’t help much. Unless you mean comments made on posts by the real people, of course.
I mean comments made by real people who are probably seo’s slipping in their clients sites. I am becoming more careful who I link to as a few bad neighbourhoods slipped in will have a real effect.
I love that regular, trusted commenters get a do follow, and I want all the people who have commented here to get a do follow, not just because you commented here but because you produce quality stuff on your own blogs and I want my readers to go there after leaving here.
I think I may look for a plugin that gives trusted commenters instant do follow, or those who have made more than 3 comments a dofollow.
Ach, I just don’t want to spend too much time on this.
PS - I no longer “advertise” that I am a DoFollow blog anymore. Have comments dropped off since I did that? Yes. A lot. But the ones that really have something to say are getting a little surprise from me.
Someone needs to develop a WP plugin that lets you decide which comments to follow and which to not. The search engines probably wont like this either though :|
I have seen one person recoup their PR by removing whatever was the problem and submitting a re-inclusion request.
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Well put. My site just dropped from PR4 to PR3. Do I care? No. As long as traffic keeps coming I don’t care what the toolbar looks like. It might as well not be there.
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I don’t think it is such a tragedy. Actually it is happening on every website out there, everyone is getting “ranked down” and it is completely logical to me. After all the whole web is expanding, links are being exchanged more widely, and higher pr is getting easier to achieve for sites that don’t really deserve it.
Google just needed to make some change to its algorithm or its green pr bar would mean nothing.
Just check some of the bigger authority sites and you will see that their pr has dropped too.
I haven’t noticed a change in the traffic of my sites, nor a change in how I rank in the results. So I don’t see a reason to groan in desperation (yet). The way I see it, it is just another change affecting everyone and the only thought that worries me is what Sebastian said: “I bet that?s just testing the waters with tiny chunks. Many more massacres to come”. I have the same feeling that other bigger changes are coming…
October 25th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Agreed.
Best post I’ve read all day.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:10 am
Indeed.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:17 am
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October 25th, 2007 at 4:20 am
I am truley amazed at how many articles were posted today on that subject. I read several but yours might be the best so far :)
Scott
October 25th, 2007 at 4:35 am
Excellent summarization! You captured it perfectly.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:18 am
You wouldn’t have said that about the backlinks or traffic ;)
That being said I am not sure it was worth the amount of time I spent on it today.
October 25th, 2007 at 8:10 am
@ Andy, and also my PR was untouched ;)
But that little green bar does whip seo bloggers into a mouth foaming frenzy.
October 25th, 2007 at 8:35 am
Massacre … next step is mass suicides judging from the hysteria across the boards. I bet that’s just testing the waters with tiny chunks. Many more massacres to come …
October 25th, 2007 at 10:25 am
Lol :-)
October 25th, 2007 at 11:21 am
I wish I could blog in my sleep. It’d save so much time.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Fair point, Lyndon. Maybe folks did get a little hot under the collar yesterday but, certainly from my perspective, it wasn’t just about PR. It’s more about the way Google operate.
October 25th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
{ Yawn }
Google Was Founded By Aliens, Shot JFK, And Has Mind Control Technology
I had a similar view. PR dropped but nothing else did. Bunch of cry babies out there.
October 25th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
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October 25th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
HA! You nofollowed the comments on this post. That’s either the most subtle and funny thing I’ve seen on the internet all week or a mistake. Either way it made me laugh.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
@ I have changed my nofollow plugin to nofollow comments less than 3 days old. Older comments still carry the juice.
I am getting swamped by spammy comments and hope this will deter, for genuine commenters it doesn’t really change as after 3 days the nofollow comes off. Although I am considering getting rid of the dofollow as there is no real benefit and means I have to waste time deleting spam.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
so using nofollow will eliminate spam? Snap! Someone should tell Google, I bet they’d endorse it then ;)
October 25th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Discourage rather than eliminate.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:42 am
I’d put it even shorter :p
Nofollow doesn’t stop automated scripts from spamming any detected blog. Since your comments are moderated and not shown (hopefully), the 3 day nofollow won’t help much. Unless you mean comments made on posts by the real people, of course.
October 26th, 2007 at 7:43 am
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October 26th, 2007 at 7:46 am
I mean comments made by real people who are probably seo’s slipping in their clients sites. I am becoming more careful who I link to as a few bad neighbourhoods slipped in will have a real effect.
I love that regular, trusted commenters get a do follow, and I want all the people who have commented here to get a do follow, not just because you commented here but because you produce quality stuff on your own blogs and I want my readers to go there after leaving here.
I think I may look for a plugin that gives trusted commenters instant do follow, or those who have made more than 3 comments a dofollow.
Ach, I just don’t want to spend too much time on this.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Spend no more time on your search! :) I had the same problem and had to go back to NoFollow until I found the LinkLove plugin.
http://www.allpassionmarketing.com/software.html#linklove
Removes NoFollow for people who have commented 10+ times.
And in case you think that is too much, I have had one spammer leave around 6-7 spam comments before I caught onto what they were doing.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
PS - I no longer “advertise” that I am a DoFollow blog anymore. Have comments dropped off since I did that? Yes. A lot. But the ones that really have something to say are getting a little surprise from me.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
You rock.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
http://www.allpassionmarketing.com/software.html#Link%20Love
maybe worth a try?
October 26th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Someone needs to develop a WP plugin that lets you decide which comments to follow and which to not. The search engines probably wont like this either though :|
I have seen one person recoup their PR by removing whatever was the problem and submitting a re-inclusion request.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
very right
October 26th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
The former PageRank 7 directory is now PR3/4: http://tagspage.com/
October 27th, 2007 at 5:21 am
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October 27th, 2007 at 9:51 am
Thanks Wendy
October 27th, 2007 at 9:56 am
David was that your attempt at sneaking in a link to a crappy directory? This is why no follow is needed.
October 27th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
:P no. I was just pointing out the biggest PR drop I had seen.
October 28th, 2007 at 1:27 am
Well put. My site just dropped from PR4 to PR3. Do I care? No. As long as traffic keeps coming I don’t care what the toolbar looks like. It might as well not be there.
October 29th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
I haven’t heard of any updates with the LinkLove plugin, thus I would recommend Lucia’s Linky Love
It has a lot more control, and uses less CPU time
October 29th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
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November 20th, 2007 at 10:27 am
I don’t think it is such a tragedy. Actually it is happening on every website out there, everyone is getting “ranked down” and it is completely logical to me. After all the whole web is expanding, links are being exchanged more widely, and higher pr is getting easier to achieve for sites that don’t really deserve it.
Google just needed to make some change to its algorithm or its green pr bar would mean nothing.
Just check some of the bigger authority sites and you will see that their pr has dropped too.
I haven’t noticed a change in the traffic of my sites, nor a change in how I rank in the results. So I don’t see a reason to groan in desperation (yet). The way I see it, it is just another change affecting everyone and the only thought that worries me is what Sebastian said: “I bet that?s just testing the waters with tiny chunks. Many more massacres to come”. I have the same feeling that other bigger changes are coming…
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